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	<description>on art and perception</description>
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		<title>By: Karl Zipser</title>
		<link>http://karlzipser.com/2006/12/kids-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-737</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Zipser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 04:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fran found it neat to see her sister&#039;s drawing online. She is warming to the idea of showing her work on the web, she is beginning to understand the concept of the web. I think the key to helping her understand is for her to look at the drawing from anther computer, maybe in the library. I would prefer if she knew what she was getting into before she puts work online, as much as I would like to show it now.

I searched for some children&#039;s art sites and Fran and I looked at them together. Her first question was always, &quot;How old is that kid?&quot; I have heard that children always ask this.

Hanneke&#039;s older daughter is not my daughter. I have no idea exactly what the drawing is of. I doubt she remembers herself. I like the drawing very much. Françesca says, &quot;I find it a little bit beautiful. What is that, a crocodile? A crocodile doesn&#039;t have such long legs. A crocodile doesn&#039;t have only two legs, it has four legs.&quot; The other thing is &quot;a baby crocodile,&quot; according to her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fran found it neat to see her sister&#8217;s drawing online. She is warming to the idea of showing her work on the web, she is beginning to understand the concept of the web. I think the key to helping her understand is for her to look at the drawing from anther computer, maybe in the library. I would prefer if she knew what she was getting into before she puts work online, as much as I would like to show it now.</p>
<p>I searched for some children&#8217;s art sites and Fran and I looked at them together. Her first question was always, &#8220;How old is that kid?&#8221; I have heard that children always ask this.</p>
<p>Hanneke&#8217;s older daughter is not my daughter. I have no idea exactly what the drawing is of. I doubt she remembers herself. I like the drawing very much. Françesca says, &#8220;I find it a little bit beautiful. What is that, a crocodile? A crocodile doesn&#8217;t have such long legs. A crocodile doesn&#8217;t have only two legs, it has four legs.&#8221; The other thing is &#8220;a baby crocodile,&#8221; according to her.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
		<link>http://karlzipser.com/2006/12/kids-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-736</link>
		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a dinosaur eating a jellyfish.  The other day my son tried to tell me jellyfish have no natural predators - clearly he&#039;s wrong - and here&#039;s the proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a dinosaur eating a jellyfish.  The other day my son tried to tell me jellyfish have no natural predators &#8211; clearly he&#8217;s wrong &#8211; and here&#8217;s the proof.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://karlzipser.com/2006/12/kids-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have any kids, and wouldn&#039;t know which way to turn, but I would like to say I absolutely love that picture!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any kids, and wouldn&#8217;t know which way to turn, but I would like to say I absolutely love that picture!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Whitman</title>
		<link>http://karlzipser.com/2006/12/kids-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-734</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Whitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl,

Are those supposed to be dinosaurs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl,</p>
<p>Are those supposed to be dinosaurs?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://karlzipser.com/2006/12/kids-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-733</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was my next question Karl - where to find kid art on line.  Thanks for the link Arthur.

Karl - let us know what she thinks.  Do kids like looking or would they rather just do?

The problems I see in the public schools (ie little money) in Denver are that the equipment can not keep up with the technology.  My kids school has 4 year old machines running linux.  This is likely to disqualify them from a very cool program my ex-husband recently got funded.

http://gamedev.cs.du.edu/news.html#new1

The idea is to use computer game creation  to teach kids math, art and computer science  in high schools.  The program will track the kids exposed to this program through college.

But if the equipment won&#039;t run the software the schools can&#039;t really participate.  Which would be a bummer as my son&#039;s teachers are pretty excited about the idea of incorporating game creation into the curriculum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was my next question Karl &#8211; where to find kid art on line.  Thanks for the link Arthur.</p>
<p>Karl &#8211; let us know what she thinks.  Do kids like looking or would they rather just do?</p>
<p>The problems I see in the public schools (ie little money) in Denver are that the equipment can not keep up with the technology.  My kids school has 4 year old machines running linux.  This is likely to disqualify them from a very cool program my ex-husband recently got funded.</p>
<p><a href="http://gamedev.cs.du.edu/news.html#new1" rel="nofollow">http://gamedev.cs.du.edu/news.html#new1</a></p>
<p>The idea is to use computer game creation  to teach kids math, art and computer science  in high schools.  The program will track the kids exposed to this program through college.</p>
<p>But if the equipment won&#8217;t run the software the schools can&#8217;t really participate.  Which would be a bummer as my son&#8217;s teachers are pretty excited about the idea of incorporating game creation into the curriculum.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Zipser</title>
		<link>http://karlzipser.com/2006/12/kids-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-732</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Zipser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At Hanneke&#039;s suggestion I added a drawing by Hanneke&#039;s older daughter, who was the same age as Fran when she made this (she is past her teens now).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At Hanneke&#8217;s suggestion I added a drawing by Hanneke&#8217;s older daughter, who was the same age as Fran when she made this (she is past her teens now).</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Zipser</title>
		<link>http://karlzipser.com/2006/12/kids-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-731</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Zipser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron,

The pace of technological change poses a problem for schools, if they choose to see it that way. Or an opportunity. When I was in high school in the 1980&#039;s, our creative writing teacher made us keep a daily diary. If I were teaching the class today, I would strongly consider having the students maintain daily blogs. But this would require some technical support. If a school sees this as a good option, they have to be know what a blog is and how to use it for educational purposes. Can schools keep up with the changes? Should they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron,</p>
<p>The pace of technological change poses a problem for schools, if they choose to see it that way. Or an opportunity. When I was in high school in the 1980&#8242;s, our creative writing teacher made us keep a daily diary. If I were teaching the class today, I would strongly consider having the students maintain daily blogs. But this would require some technical support. If a school sees this as a good option, they have to be know what a blog is and how to use it for educational purposes. Can schools keep up with the changes? Should they?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Diorio</title>
		<link>http://karlzipser.com/2006/12/kids-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-730</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Diorio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night I was elected to our local school&#039;s leadership team.  My particular interest is in media literacy for parents and children.  I think things are moving too fast not to engage the conversation right now.  I don&#039;t see any benefit in denying the computer or the internet to the children however it is always supervised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night I was elected to our local school&#8217;s leadership team.  My particular interest is in media literacy for parents and children.  I think things are moving too fast not to engage the conversation right now.  I don&#8217;t see any benefit in denying the computer or the internet to the children however it is always supervised.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Zipser</title>
		<link>http://karlzipser.com/2006/12/kids-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-729</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Zipser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Arthur,

Thanks for the link. I&#039;ll show this to Fran when she gets home from school today.

Lisa,

The idea of getting Fran interested in other kids&#039; art online is a new one for us. This link from Arthur is a great place to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Arthur,</p>
<p>Thanks for the link. I&#8217;ll show this to Fran when she gets home from school today.</p>
<p>Lisa,</p>
<p>The idea of getting Fran interested in other kids&#8217; art online is a new one for us. This link from Arthur is a great place to start.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Whitman</title>
		<link>http://karlzipser.com/2006/12/kids-online.html/comment-page-1#comment-728</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Whitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 01:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://violetmakesthings.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;   is a kid&#039;s drawing blog. (I tried posting this earlier but it didn&#039;t work for some reason.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://violetmakesthings.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a>   is a kid&#8217;s drawing blog. (I tried posting this earlier but it didn&#8217;t work for some reason.)</p>
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