Comments on: On Perception: Meet the Homunculus http://karlzipser.com/2006/03/on-perception-meet-the-homunculus.html on art and perception Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:01:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Karl Zipser http://karlzipser.com/2006/03/on-perception-meet-the-homunculus.html/comment-page-1#comment-1161 Karl Zipser Sat, 07 Oct 2006 00:17:00 +0000 http://karlzipser.com/?p=9#comment-1161 In this essay I take a pessimistic view of the value of neuroscience data, but this pessimism is only relative to the larger goal of understanding how the brain really works. If you set aside that ambition, neuroscience data is as fascinating as any other scientific data. Anonymous, I think you don't quite get what I am saying. Perhaps I need to rewrite the essay more clearly. In this essay I take a pessimistic view of the value of neuroscience data, but this pessimism is only relative to the larger goal of understanding how the brain really works. If you set aside that ambition, neuroscience data is as fascinating as any other scientific data.

Anonymous, I think you don’t quite get what I am saying. Perhaps I need to rewrite the essay more clearly.

]]> By: Anonymous http://karlzipser.com/2006/03/on-perception-meet-the-homunculus.html/comment-page-1#comment-1160 Anonymous Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:49:00 +0000 http://karlzipser.com/?p=9#comment-1160 <I>Thus, the great insight of the twentieth century ... does not explain how we experience that world.</I> We experience the world through our 5 senses <I>the Homunculus must have a brain of his own in order to be conscious of that model world, and in its head there must be another Homunculus, and the series must go on infinitely,</I> No the serie stops there, we just experience the world and ourself imperfectly. <I>yet it would still not explain anything. Thus we can conclude that the Homunculus does not exist, that there must be something else going on.</I> Nothing is not explained, Homunculus exists and there is nothing else going on. <I>we cannot cross the Homunculus barrier.</I> This barrier doesn't exist. <I>If we could, we could develop machines with consciousness, true artificial intelligence.</I> It's only a question of time before we develop such machines, even if we are far from it currently. Thus, the great insight of the twentieth century … does not explain how we experience that world.
We experience the world through our 5 senses

the Homunculus must have a brain of his own in order to be conscious of that model world,
and in its head there must be another Homunculus,
and the series must go on infinitely,
No the serie stops there, we just experience the world and ourself imperfectly.

yet it would still not explain anything.
Thus we can conclude that the Homunculus does not exist, that there must be something else going on.
Nothing is not explained, Homunculus exists and there is nothing else going on.

we cannot cross the Homunculus barrier.
This barrier doesn’t exist.

If we could, we could develop machines with consciousness, true artificial intelligence.
It’s only a question of time before we develop such machines,
even if we are far from it currently.

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